[Anthill-pro] What CPU usage is expected by Anthill server?

Ryan Smith rws at urbancode.com
Thu May 22 12:50:26 CDT 2008


Peter,

What version of Java are you using? We can probably create a jsp snippet that will tell us which threads are using up the CPU and deduce it from that if you are running Java 5 or later.


Ryan

Peter Steele wrote:
> We are using the default Derby database. No other processes on the
> system have high CPU usage. As for disk I/O activity, I'm not sure how
> to check for this under Linux (I'm more of Windows guy). The server box
> is running CentOS 4.5 I believe. This server also runs our Subversion
> and JIRA services, but I don't think the box is anywhere near being
> overloaded. It's a quad CPU system.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ryan Smith [mailto:rws at urbancode.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:11 AM
> To: Peter Steele
> Cc: AnthillPro user and support list.; Yanko, Curtis
> Subject: Re: [Anthill-pro] What CPU usage is expected by Anthill server?
> 
> I agree, it is unusual. We are testing the idle CPU usage with a large
> number of agents today. Is the process doing a lot of disk IO? What
> database are you using, how is its CPU usage?
> 
> Ryan
> 
> Peter Steele wrote:
>> I just applied this change to my 3.5.0 install and restarted the
> server. 
>> It's showing under 50MB memory usage right now, which is not
> surprising 
>> since I just rebooted the server. It also shows that there are zero 
>> checked out threads. However,  the Anthill Java process still shows up
> 
>> as the number 1 CPU consumer, even though no builds nor anything else 
>> are going on right now. The process is essentially never truly idle; 
>> it's always churning away doing something. This just doesn't seem
> right. 
>> Unfortunately I had not noted what the CPU usage was prior to
> upgrading 
>> to 3.5.0 so I don't know if this is something that was introduced by
> the 
>> upgrade. Is high CPU usage normal, even when no real activity is going
> on?
>>  
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: anthill-pro-bounces at lists.urbancode.com 
>> [mailto:anthill-pro-bounces at lists.urbancode.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
> Smith
>> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:41 AM
>> To: Yanko, Curtis
>> Cc: AnthillPro user and support list.
>> Subject: Re: [Anthill-pro] What CPU usage is expected by Anthill
> server?
>>  
>>
>> Everyone should be aware that the memory display was fixed in 3.5.1. 
>> Prior versions did not correctly display the memory.
>>
>>  
>>
>> The bottom of 
>> opt/tomcat/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/jsps/currentActivity/memory.jsp should
> be:
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> <br>
>>
>> <div class="note">
>>
>> <b>Memory:</b><br>
>>
>> <%
>>
>>         Runtime runtime = Runtime.getRuntime();
>>
>>         long tm = runtime.totalMemory();
>>
>>         long fm = runtime.freeMemory();
>>
>>         long mm = runtime.maxMemory();
>>
>>         long um = tm - fm;
>>
>> %>
>>
>>   Using <%= getNearestBytes((double) um) %> / <%= 
>> getNearestBytes((double) tm) %> bytes<br>
>>
>>   <%= getNearestBytes((double) fm) %> bytes free<br>
>>
>>   <%= getNearestBytes((double) mm) %> max memory<br>
>>
>> </div>
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Yanko, Curtis wrote:
>>
>>  > Take a look at the resources tab and  see how you are doing on
> memory.
>>  > When it gets fully consume AHP BMS does some odd things. We have
> taken
>>  > to upping the JVM memory size. Looking at my own BMS system on
> Windows
>>  > it is a good, idle app waiting for work. (3.4.11)
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > ===
>>
>>  > -Curt
>>
>>  > W: 860.702.9059
>>
>>  > M: 860.881.2050
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > -----Original Message-----
>>
>>  > From: anthill-pro-bounces at lists.urbancode.com
>>
>>  > [mailto:anthill-pro-bounces at lists.urbancode.com] On Behalf Of Peter
>>
>>  > Steele
>>
>>  > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:10 PM
>>
>>  > To: rws at urbancode.com; AnthillPro user and support list.
>>
>>  > Subject: RE: [Anthill-pro] What CPU usage is expected by Anthill
> server?
>>  >
>>
>>  > I agree of course that CPU usage is proportional to activity, but
> why
>>  > would the Anthill server be consistently the highest CPU consumer,
> even
>>  > at times when the system is essentially idle--no builds running, no
>>
>>  > cleanup processes running, no codestation resolves (we don't use
> this
>>  > feature) and no UI activity (beyond anyone with windows open to the
>>
>>  > dashboard). I assume the server is constantly monitoring the
> agents,
>>  > even if the agents are idle, but that should be the bulk of the
>>
>>  > activity. Are there figures on how well the Anthill server scales?
> We
>>  > have currently have 50 agents configured, and this number will grow
> to
>>  > 200+ over the next few months. Can the Anthill server handle this
> many
>>  > agents?
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > -----Original Message-----
>>
>>  > From: anthill-pro-bounces at lists.urbancode.com
>>
>>  > [mailto:anthill-pro-bounces at lists.urbancode.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
> Smith
>>  > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 5:56 PM
>>
>>  > To: AnthillPro user and support list.
>>
>>  > Subject: Re: [Anthill-pro] What CPU usage is expected by Anthill
> server?
>>  >
>>
>>  > Peter,
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > The CPU usage is going to be proportional to the activity on the
> server.
>>  > Activity includes running workflows, miscellaneous tasks like
> cleanup,
>>  > UI activity and any remote Codestation resolves. There are other
> things
>>  > that could cause high CPU usage such as memory thrashing. We are
>>
>>  > investigating potential memory problems with 3.5. If we find one,
> that
>>  > could be the cause.
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > Ryan Smith
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > Peter Steele wrote:
>>
>>  >> Here's an interesting snapshot: This is the first few lines from
> the
>>  >> "top" command:
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> top - 15:26:49 up 64 days,  2:14,  3 users,  load average: 0.10,
> 0.20,
>>  > 0.25
>>
>>  >> Tasks: 143 total,   1 running, 142 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0
> zombie
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> Cpu(s): 19.8% us,  0.2% sy,  0.0% ni, 79.9% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0%
> hi,
>>  > 0.2% si
>>
>>  >> Mem:   4109408k total,  3990708k used,   118700k free,    89004k
>>
>>  > buffers
>>
>>  >> Swap:  8385920k total,      144k used,  8385776k free,  3012000k
>>
>>  > cached
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+ 
>>
>>  >> COMMAND
> 
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> * 7778 root      18   0  530m 300m 8972 S   40  7.5 238:02.05
>>
>>  >> java
>>
>>  > *
>>
>>  >> 30397 root      16   0  7348 1068  772 R    0  0.0   0:29.29
>>
>>  >> top
> 
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >>     1 root      16   0  4756  556  460 S    0  0.0   0:01.23 init
> 
>>  >>                                                                 
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >>     2 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:01.91
>>
>>  >> migration/0
> 
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> As you can see, process 7778 is current the top CPU user. This is
> the
>>  >> Anthill server. I rebooted the server just two days ago and it as
>>
>>  >> already consumed over 238 minutes of CPU time. Nothing else comes
>>
>>  > close
>>
>>  >> to this, and the system has been up for 64 days. This seems to be
>>
>>  >> pointing to some kind of problem. What should we expect as far as
> CPU
>>  >> usage is concerned for the Anthill server process?
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> *From:* anthill-pro-bounces at lists.urbancode.com
>>
>>  >> [mailto:anthill-pro-bounces at lists.urbancode.com] *On Behalf Of
> *Peter
>>  > Steele
>>
>>  >> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:21 PM
>>
>>  >> *To:* AnthillPro user and support list.
>>
>>  >> *Subject:* RE: [Anthill-pro] What CPU usage is expected by Anthill
>>
>>  > server?
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> The server still seems to be a CPU hog, with it almost always
> being
>>  > the
>>
>>  >> number one process on the "top" list, even when the system is
> largely
>>  >> idol. We've added 40+ agents recently, but I did not check the
>>
>>  > server's
>>
>>  >> CPU usage before adding all the new agents, and I also did not
> what
>>  > the
>>
>>  >> CPU usage was before upgrading to 3.5. Fortunately the command
>>
>>  > failures
>>
>>  >> we were seeing the other day appear to have stopped after the
> reboot,
>>  >> although the GUI is still very slow to respond to many typical
>>
>>  > commands.
>>
>>  >> For example, it just took 30 seconds for Anthill to respond to a
> click
>>  >
>>
>>  >> on a project displayed in the "Your Active Projects" column of the
>>
>>  >> Dashboard. This seems to be slower than what it was in 3.4.12, but
> as
>>  > I
>>
>>  >> indicated we have added a lot of agents lately. We'll be adding
> more
>>  > as
>>
>>  >> well, exceeding 100 agents in the next while. Is there anything we
>>
>>  >> should do to improve performance?
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> *From:* anthill-pro-bounces at lists.urbancode.com
>>
>>  >> [mailto:anthill-pro-bounces at lists.urbancode.com] *On Behalf Of
> *Steve
>>  > Boone
>>
>>  >> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:39 AM
>>
>>  >> *To:* AnthillPro user and support list.
>>
>>  >> *Subject:* Re: [Anthill-pro] What CPU usage is expected by Anthill
>>
>>  > server?
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> Peter,
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> Has this been happening in a regular basis?
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> What happened after the restart?
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Peter Steele
> <psteele at maxiscale.com
>>  >> <mailto:psteele at maxiscale.com>> wrote:
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> We've noticed some very slow feedback from the Anthill server
> today,
>>  >> even coming back with failures for some operations. The Unix top
>>
>>  > command
>>
>>  >> is showing the ah3server process as taking as much as 100% CPU at
>>
>>  > times,
>>
>>  >> and is consistently the top 1 or 2 processes on the system. There
> are
>>  >> just two builds going on, and both of course are running on agent
>>
>>  >> systems, not the server. I don't recall seeing this before. We
>>
>>  > upgraded
>>
>>  >> to 3.5 yesterday and I am wondering if that might be to blame.
> It's
>>  >> certainly very slow right now; I'll restart the server as soon as
> the
>>  >> builds are done...
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> 
>>
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