[Clev-jug] Job Postings on the List -- Need Ideas

[Tony Felice]

I'm new to the JUG -- I've only attended three meetings and this is the 
first time I've posted on the list.  The reason I joined the JUG is that 
I've recently become the IT director of a company with a long-term 
commitment to Java and Open Source development.  For the seven years 
prior to that, I ran an IT consulting company that did a lot of Open 
Source and only a little bit of Java development.  So I am not 
personally a Java developer and by no means an expert on the technology, 
but it seems obvious to me that I need to at least get to know some 
folks and be known in that circle.  I have never posted a job on the 
list, but expected to do so at some time in the near future.My personal 
feeling is that when you join a list and/or a group (whether in 
cyberspace or not), you shut up for a while and listen and absorb the 
culture and customs so as not to make the first thing out of your mouth 
inappropriate or irritating, and/or justifiably unwelcome.  What I have 
done outside of the context of the list, though, is to twice approach 
Maciej seeking advice about how to go about searching for the talent I 
need, and I've also approached Scott Seighman of Sun on the same 
subject.  I would appreciate any constructive input on that subject, on 
list of off.

To sum up, then, I don't feel I'm in a position to vote on whether to 
allow job postings on this list, but I definitely have an interest.  One 
way or another, I would appreciate some effective means for someone like 
me--an actual employer actually looking to hire an actual person (i.e., 
not a recruiter trolling for names for his portfolio)--to make an 
opportunity known to talented developers in the group who may be interested.

 Tony Felice
 Tameran Graphic Systems  <http://www.tameran.com>
 "data in motion"
 (440) 349-7100  x3099


Maciej Zawadzki wrote on 7/16/2007 4:14 PM:
> Hello All,
>
> I am tempted to ban all job postings from the list, but perhaps that 
> would be over reacting.  If any member of the JUG has actually gotten 
> a job via these postings, then we should probably let the job postings 
> continue.  So, if you have gotten a job through the list, please let 
> me know.  If I don't receive at least one email from a JUG member that 
> has gotten a job from the job postings by the end of the week, we'll 
> ban all job postings on the list.
>
> I personally don't think that the job postings are very effective for 
> anyone, either the organizations looking to hire or the people looking 
> for work.  The postings sure have become annoying.  But I am willing 
> to be proven wrong on the issue of their effectiveness.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Maciej
>
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