[Clev-jug] Job Postings on the List -- Need Ideas

[Brian Meloche]

Hello everyone... this is my first post to this list.  I thought I would
offer this perspective.

I manage the Cleveland Adobe Users Group and the Cleveland ColdFusion Users
Group, and both groups allow job postings.  Most people on those lists
appreciate the posts, although I do not allow recruiters to post the
positions directly - they have to go through me first.  We may go to Google
Groups based listservs rather than our current Mailman, after some feel the
need for a forum and don't want to be bombarded with emails, but that change
has not yet occurred.

If anyone here's interested in either group, by the way, check out
www.clevelandmmug.org (Adobe group, formerly Macromedia) and
www.clevelandcfug.org.

On 7/18/07, Tony Felice <tfelice at cronosys.com> wrote:
>
>  I'm new to the JUG -- I've only attended three meetings and this is the
> first time I've posted on the list.  The reason I joined the JUG is that
> I've recently become the IT director of a company with a long-term
> commitment to Java and Open Source development.  For the seven years prior
> to that, I ran an IT consulting company that did a lot of Open Source and
> only a little bit of Java development.  So I am not personally a Java
> developer and by no means an expert on the technology, but it seems obvious
> to me that I need to at least get to know some folks and be known in that
> circle.  I have never posted a job on the list, but expected to do so at
> some time in the near future.My personal feeling is that when you join a
> list and/or a group (whether in cyberspace or not), you shut up for a while
> and listen and absorb the culture and customs so as not to make the first
> thing out of your mouth inappropriate or irritating, and/or justifiably
> unwelcome.  What I have done outside of the context of the list, though, is
> to twice approach Maciej seeking advice about how to go about searching for
> the talent I need, and I've also approached Scott Seighman of Sun on the
> same subject.  I would appreciate any constructive input on that subject, on
> list of off.
>
> To sum up, then, I don't feel I'm in a position to vote on whether to
> allow job postings on this list, but I definitely have an interest.  One way
> or another, I would appreciate some effective means for someone like me--an
> actual employer actually looking to hire an actual person (i.e., not a
> recruiter trolling for names for his portfolio)--to make an opportunity
> known to talented developers in the group who may be interested.
>
>   Tony Felice
>  Tameran Graphic Systems  <http://www.tameran.com>
>  "data in motion"
>  (440) 349-7100  x3099
>
>
> Maciej Zawadzki wrote on 7/16/2007 4:14 PM:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I am tempted to ban all job postings from the list, but perhaps that would
> be over reacting.  If any member of the JUG has actually gotten a job via
> these postings, then we should probably let the job postings continue.  So,
> if you have gotten a job through the list, please let me know.  If I don't
> receive at least one email from a JUG member that has gotten a job from the
> job postings by the end of the week, we'll ban all job postings on the list.
>
>
> I personally don't think that the job postings are very effective for
> anyone, either the organizations looking to hire or the people looking for
> work.  The postings sure have become annoying.  But I am willing to be
> proven wrong on the issue of their effectiveness.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Maciej
>
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-- 
Sincerely,

Brian Meloche
brianmeloche at gmail dot com
http://www.brianmeloche.com/blog/
User Group Manager,
Cleveland Adobe Users Group,
http://www.clevelandmmug.org
User Group Manager,
Cleveland ColdFusion Users Group,
http://www.clevelandcfug.org
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